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Postby siplus » Sun May 16, 2004 12:30 pm

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i've never used "BitTorrent"...after some searching i've found the client download, i think.

it tells me to find a website that uses bittorrent and click the appropriate links or something like that. my question: how do i download something with bitTorrent, or , more specifically, how do i download FC2 with bitTorrent?
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Postby Void Main » Sun May 16, 2004 12:44 pm

I haven't found a link anywhere that has FC2 available for download. It's not supposed to be publicly available until Tuesday. I did find an apt repository that already has it so I am in the process of downloading that and creating my own FC2 apt repo which I will upgrade all of my machines from. I'm about 50% done downloading so I should have my first machine upgraded in a couple of hours. :)
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Postby siplus » Sun May 16, 2004 12:49 pm

cool.

i think i'm just going to get a copy of it on DVD anyway...
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Postby Griffin518 » Tue May 18, 2004 10:31 am

siplus wrote:cool.

i think i'm just going to get a copy of it on DVD anyway...


FYI: I posted a torrent link to it in the FC2 sticky thread... I'm grabbing the DVD right now. Void: if you've got 4.1GB free, and you'd like me to ftp it to your server, let me know... I'd be happy to.
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Postby Void Main » Tue May 18, 2004 11:04 am

Thanks but I'm going to get the CD ISOs. I have already upgraded the one machine I have a DVD in via apt a couple of days ago. :) I found a repo out there that had FC2 OS and I just duplicated it and installed from my own apt repo. I hunted around until 4:00am this morning for mirrors that might have opened up early for download and none of them did. They held true and didn't open until 10:00am (EST). Actually by time I get the ISOs downloaded and CDs created I'll probably have all my home machines upgraded. I might do another one when I get home from work.
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Postby Griffin518 » Tue May 18, 2004 12:15 pm

Void Main wrote:Thanks but I'm going to get the CD ISOs. I have already upgraded the one machine I have a DVD in via apt a couple of days ago. :) I found a repo out there that had FC2 OS and I just duplicated it and installed from my own apt repo. I hunted around until 4:00am this morning for mirrors that might have opened up early for download and none of them did. They held true and didn't open until 10:00am (EST). Actually by time I get the ISOs downloaded and CDs created I'll probably have all my home machines upgraded. I might do another one when I get home from work.


That's a really good call... it's taking forever for me to download the DVD iso. I've got a friend who was getting 300k on the CD isos, but I'm not having much luck with the dvd. There's something sneaky going on... I think my isp is throttling my connection, but I can't be sure. Oh well. :(

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Postby siplus » Tue May 18, 2004 3:17 pm

this will take forever to dl the DVD iso (i'm pretty impacient, and i don't feel like clearing 4gb on my laptop's harddrive)

i've been looking around for places that will send my a copy of fedora2 on dvd, but all i can find is, at best, a copy on 4 cds (such as from linuxiso.org)

do you know of any site/org that is distributing on dvd?

edit: found it...

http://www.linuxdvds.com/catalog.php

in case anyone else might be looking for FC2 but doesn't want to dl several gb.
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Postby Void Main » Tue May 18, 2004 5:30 pm

Griffin518 wrote:
Void Main wrote:Thanks but I'm going to get the CD ISOs. I have already upgraded the one machine I have a DVD in via apt a couple of days ago. :) I found a repo out there that had FC2 OS and I just duplicated it and installed from my own apt repo. I hunted around until 4:00am this morning for mirrors that might have opened up early for download and none of them did. They held true and didn't open until 10:00am (EST). Actually by time I get the ISOs downloaded and CDs created I'll probably have all my home machines upgraded. I might do another one when I get home from work.


That's a really good call... it's taking forever for me to download the DVD iso. I've got a friend who was getting 300k on the CD isos, but I'm not having much luck with the dvd. There's something sneaky going on... I think my isp is throttling my connection, but I can't be sure. Oh well. :(

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If you are using bitttorrent and you aren't allowing upload then it will limit your bandwidth. Also the last time I downloaded with it (FC1) it started out really slow and then eventually got exponentially faster and ended up downloading really quickly. I'm about to start a bit download now...
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Postby Void Main » Tue May 18, 2004 6:13 pm

BTW, if the site is extremely slow for the next few hours you can blame Bittorrent for hogging all my bandwidth. :)
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Postby Tux » Wed May 19, 2004 3:03 am

Don't forget to make your BitTorrent purdy :D
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Postby Void Main » Wed May 19, 2004 10:26 am

I ended up giving up on the Bittorrent way and reverted to good old reliable "wget". I started downloading and after a couple of hours I only had a little over 100MB downloaded, then I lost connection and couldn't get Bit to connect again. I know it usually starts out slow and increases as you go but I ended up getting over 100kB/s and had the ISOs all downloaded when I looked this morning.
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Postby Griffin518 » Wed May 19, 2004 7:23 pm

Void Main wrote:
Griffin518 wrote:
Void Main wrote:Thanks but I'm going to get the CD ISOs. I have already upgraded the one machine I have a DVD in via apt a couple of days ago. :) I found a repo out there that had FC2 OS and I just duplicated it and installed from my own apt repo. I hunted around until 4:00am this morning for mirrors that might have opened up early for download and none of them did. They held true and didn't open until 10:00am (EST). Actually by time I get the ISOs downloaded and CDs created I'll probably have all my home machines upgraded. I might do another one when I get home from work.


That's a really good call... it's taking forever for me to download the DVD iso. I've got a friend who was getting 300k on the CD isos, but I'm not having much luck with the dvd. There's something sneaky going on... I think my isp is throttling my connection, but I can't be sure. Oh well. :(

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If you are using bitttorrent and you aren't allowing upload then it will limit your bandwidth. Also the last time I downloaded with it (FC1) it started out really slow and then eventually got exponentially faster and ended up downloading really quickly. I'm about to start a bit download now...


Yes, I realize this. ;) It wasn't using close to my upload cap. It worked some magic over night, though... it showed 24hrs left when I went to bed (1am). This morning (7:30) is was claiming 2hrs left.

I figured the slow connection may have had something to do with other clients connecting to me, and my machine sending out connection requests. I wonder how much overhead there is, above the actual transfer.
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Postby Void Main » Wed May 19, 2004 7:26 pm

I don't know but I have only successfully downloaded one thing via bittorrent and that was FC1. I downloaded all 5 FC2 cds via wget in less than 6 hours. I don't think I'll ever use bittorrent again unless I absolutely have to.
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Postby Basher52 » Thu May 20, 2004 3:06 pm

if i may say...
Void...dont let bittorrent down that fast :P
The fastest download ive ever made from international sites, was from bittorrent and since my connection(i think), is only 1Mbit[and within the LAN i get about 1000kBytes/s as max :(...] i DL'd at a spead of 750kBytes/s. Thats not even close to what ever ftp i can logon to to get eg. SUSE, FC etc etc.


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Postby Void Main » Thu May 20, 2004 3:46 pm

Well you can't transfer data any faster than the speed of your connection. Also don't get bits (b) and Bytes (B) mixed up. If I hit the right mirrors I can max out my download bandwidth which is good, bittorrent can't transfer any faster than that. Also, bittorrent starts out really slow on download bandwidth but consumes 100% of your upload bandwidth (24kB/s in my case), unless you throttle it. So not only will the download time surely be longer with bittorrent but my upload bandwidth is maxed, which means all you guys trying to access my web site will be crawling along at a snails pace. Also during a torrent download my surfing gets really slow. With wget I have none of these problems and the my web site has 100% of my upload bandwidth available for you guys hitting the site.

Now, one thing Bittorrent does do is free up the bandwidth of all those FTP/HTTP servers that I am grabbing my images from so by all means continue to use Bittorrent. I suggest everyone use Bittorrent and that way I will surely find some fast servers to wget from. :)
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