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FC3 apt not updating

Post by Maniaman » Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:57 am

For the past two months, there have been no updates to the FC3 apt repositories for me. I have done apt-get update, and used the refreshing information in Synaptic. Is this a problem for anyone else or am I just having some odd problems? I can't see the apt repositories going 2 months without package updates.

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Post by Void Main » Sun Apr 23, 2006 11:36 am

I think this explains it:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ#head- ... 668d545656
How long is each release of Fedora maintained?

Each Fedora release is updated with new software until it is moved into maintenance mode. Once the product that will become the next Fedora release reaches the test2 stage, the Fedora release two versions before it is moved into maintenance mode. At that point, the older release is transferred to Fedora Legacy, the community maintenance project, which continues to provide critical updates for that release. For example, Fedora 3 was updated until Fedora Core 5 test2 was released, and is now maintained by the Fedora Legacy project.

To use the Fedora Legacy updates, see the Fedora Legacy wiki pages:

* http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legacy

The Fedora release lifecycle is explained in more detail:

* http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LifeCycle
Time to upgrade?

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Post by Maniaman » Mon May 01, 2006 4:34 pm

Hmm, looks like it I guess.

On the topic of upgrading Fedora, ihow would I upgrade it without having to burn a bunch of CD's and without losing all my settings and stuff. (NEver done an upgrade before, just fresh installs).

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Post by Void Main » Mon May 01, 2006 4:44 pm

Well you wouldn't *have* to upgrade as you can get updates from the Legacy project as mentioned in the FAQ item. If you do want to upgrade I would suggest doing it from CD though. It's the most reliable way. There are also alternative methods (NFS/FTP/HTTP/etc):

http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/fedora-in ... thods.html

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Post by Maniaman » Thu May 11, 2006 9:48 pm

Well, I attempted to upgrade form FC3 to FC5 today. Apparently this is not possible and I have completely screwed up the system, atleast that is what the people in #fedora on irc.freenode.net are saying

I have quite a bit of stuff in my /var/www/html/ folder that I would really prefer to not lose... is there any chance of recovering it?

edit: ok rebooted the machine and found all the data by using the recovery console. How can I get this data copied over the network to another machine? Apparently samba got destroyed during the attempted upgrade as it is now showing up as an unrecognized service (or is this just something to do with it being form the recovery console?)

anyway, its midnight now and I have to get up at 7:00 for school. I'm going to bed and will try to get the data copied over and get the thing upgraded tommorow.

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Post by Void Main » Fri May 12, 2006 7:43 am

You shouldn't lose any data as long as you don't format your partitions. I'm not sure why you couldn't upgrade from FC3 to FC5 although I haven't tried it. I have upgraded many machines from FC4 to FC5. Certainly if you have another machine up you can boot the rescue disk or KNOPPIX or anything else and scp/rsync/nfs/ftp/etc the data to your other machine. Or you could pop another hard drive in or one of many other things to copy the data to. Or you could upgrade to FC4 and then to FC5.

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Post by Maniaman » Fri May 12, 2006 2:16 pm

I am succesfully posting this fromthe FC3 box, which aoppears to be running FC5 now from the looks of everything. I just let it boot without the boot cd in and everything seems to be working fine for the most part.

One problem, my rpm data is screwed up real bad. Any tiem I try to install an RPM (like the ones you made for apt), I get an error "Unable to retrieve software information" and the program exits. The same thing happens when I try to open the "Add/Remove Software" and the "Software Updater" things from the Applications menu. Any idea what I have to do to fix this?

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Post by Void Main » Fri May 12, 2006 2:55 pm

Does an "rpm -qa" at a shell prompt give an error? If so, copy and paste the output to a message here. If not, copy and paste the succussful output of all your packages to see what you have installed. In fact if it's successful sort it before posting (rpm -qa | sort). It's possible some things didn't get upgraded. When you did the upgrade did it prompt you to install all FC5 CDs before you finished and rebooted? If not it probably didn't upgrade much.

I don't think anything should be hard to fix. I would get the "rpm" programs updated and maybe install apt and point it to the FC5 repositories and do a "dist-upgrade" depending on what we figure out from the first paragraph above.

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Post by Maniaman » Fri May 12, 2006 3:08 pm

Here is the output of that command
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It never prompted me for any CD's (however, I was doing the upgrade from an FTP server. According to the installer it had finished upgrading the packages, but I'm not sure that it actually did upgrade all of them (seemed to eb locked up at 100%).

What will I have to do to get my rpm stuff working again?

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Post by Void Main » Fri May 12, 2006 7:16 pm

Ok, you have a lot of duplicate packages installed. I have actually run into this on many occasions and it usually is not difficult to resolve. There is one thing that may make it a little more nasty and that is that your "rpm" package is also duplicated. What you will have to do is go through and find all the duplicates and remove the older version of the package by giving the full package name including version when you remove it. For example you'll first want to try and fix "rpm" by doing this:

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# rpm -e rpm-4.3.2-21
# rpm -e rpm-devel-4.3.2-21
# rpm -e rpm-libs-4.3.2-21
# rpm -e rpm-python-4.3.2-21
I don't remember if you have to give the "--nodeps" parameter but I don't think you do as long as there are dups. You also still have the FC3 version of "apt" installed. You'll want to remove that and install the FC5 version:

http://ftp.belnet.be/packages/dries.uly ... f.i386.rpm

Before apt will work you'll have to go through and remove the rest of the dupes though. Then you should be able to do an "apt-get update" and "apt-get dist-upgrade". Then things should be back in shape. You might want to look through your packages and see all the ones that have "FC3" in their name (these would be 3rd party RPMs) after all the rest has been upgraded.

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Post by Maniaman » Fri May 12, 2006 7:37 pm

This could take a while...

I'll wok on removing the duplicates tonight. Thanks

edit: I've been working on it for about an hour and a half or so, and just now made it to the M's. I will pick up there tommorow, since I'm extra tired after staying up so late last night. Only 586 more packages to go through and find/remove old versions! :)

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Post by Maniaman » Tue May 16, 2006 8:21 pm

Finished doing it back on Saturday I think. Some stuff was still acting weird (samba shares giving permission denied, website stuff not working), but that turned out to be SELinux junk. Disabled that and almost everything is working fine. So far I have only had one problem that crops up on me. I recieve an error about not being able to load a certain theme every time I come to the X login thing. I clikc OK and it presents me with a different login screen, which still works. Other than that, I have not had any problems. :)

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Post by Void Main » Tue May 16, 2006 8:47 pm

Good news! If you could provide more information about the login error and what your "different login screen" we can probably get that resolved too.

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Post by Maniaman » Wed May 17, 2006 9:22 am

The error is somethign about not being able to find the default profile. When I get home I can try to give you the exact message. Basically I think a file got deleted that it didn't want deleted.

As for the different login screen... The login screen Fedora uses it blue and has the Fedora logo oin it. Sicne getting this message, the login screen has been this large picture of a flower with some clouds int he background, and the username/password fields are centered in their own little box thing. It has the same functionality as the Fedora login screen though. (Maybe it is the default login screen thing for X? not sure)

I'll try to get the exact error message and a pic of the different login screen when I get home.

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Post by Void Main » Wed May 17, 2006 10:22 am

Strange, never seen that one before. See if you can set the login screen via the GUI by going to the Fedora menu under System->Administration->Login Screen. The default should be set to "Fedora Bubbles". I don't even list one with clouds in it.

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