thank you guys! that's great! as for gvim, i never would have thought of that. the xwindows implementations of emacs really CeNsOrEd me off, so i tend to steer clear of GUI implementations of text based things out of habit now. in particular i like how if you type 'vim' in an xterm it doesn't rudely start up the xwindows version (not mentioning any emacs - although in mandrake it is possible to install emacs with no xwindows support, ha! suck it emacs!)
specifically though at the moment i wanted to know how to open vim like that, i couldn't have used gvim anyway, reason being i was using windows (yeurgh!) which i have had to reinstall after many months of happiness due to a proprietary program i need to run for my university course (runs in wine, but toolbars don't work, before anybody asks), and in windows i have freemacs and vim6.1 installed but no gvim. i also have staroffice 5.1, gaim, opera, phoenix and netscape 3 installed but it still doesn't feel like home. my ex-windoid girlfriend has steered well clear of windows since i reinstalled it, i think she's a firm convert!
