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Postby Linux Frank » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:55 pm

If you don't know, the ringing might be Tinnitus

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Postby Void Main » Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:21 pm

I think you are on to something. Many things in the FAQ fit my experiences.
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Postby X11 » Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:21 am

worker201 wrote:To say that the brain stores everything you do is misleading. The brain isn't quite like a hard drive. What happens is, pathways are created. When you learn about Linux, Linux becomes a branch off computers, and Fedora becomes a branch off of Linux. You probably already have "ice cream" and "burn your tongue" in your brain somewhere. If you were to burn your tongue on ice cream (??) then these two notions would be connected.


I dont think anybody here knows how the brain works, because if you did know how it worked then there wouldnt be a whole section of science dedicated to finding out how our brain works (somthing not yet discovered really).

The brain works nothing like a computer, and is based on materials completly different to computers. Our brain unlike a computer can store information in a medium which only needs to be read by one other thing, our brain. For that reason, our brain is very complex, there is more knoledge on NTFS compatability then our brain.

Basically... our brain is the work of millions of years of evolution.
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Postby Tux » Mon Sep 13, 2004 1:31 pm

X11 wrote:
worker201 wrote:To say that the brain stores everything you do is misleading. The brain isn't quite like a hard drive. What happens is, pathways are created. When you learn about Linux, Linux becomes a branch off computers, and Fedora becomes a branch off of Linux. You probably already have "ice cream" and "burn your tongue" in your brain somewhere. If you were to burn your tongue on ice cream (??) then these two notions would be connected.


I dont think anybody here knows how the brain works, because if you did know how it worked then there wouldnt be a whole section of science dedicated to finding out how our brain works (somthing not yet discovered really).

The brain works nothing like a computer, and is based on materials completly different to computers. Our brain unlike a computer can store information in a medium which only needs to be read by one other thing, our brain. For that reason, our brain is very complex, there is more knoledge on NTFS compatability then our brain.

Basically... our brain is the work of millions of years of evolution.


Nor can any of us prove that gravity really exists, but the existance of neural pathways is pretty commonly accepted science of a similar nature.
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Postby Tux » Mon Sep 13, 2004 1:36 pm

Void Main wrote:I think you are on to something. Many things in the FAQ fit my experiences.


Yeah, i'm guessing that working with fast-jets probably wasn't too good for yer lugs :)

On a slightly related note, I temporarily deafened myself in one ear at work the other day trying to break a steel 'mag' wheel. I had temporary tinnitus afterwards also.
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Postby Void Main » Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:07 pm

Tux wrote:
Void Main wrote:I think you are on to something. Many things in the FAQ fit my experiences.


Yeah, i'm guessing that working with fast-jets probably wasn't too good for yer lugs :)


Yeah, those F-16s were the worst. Three years of standing 10 feet in front of that super sucker probably did me in and it's just now catching up with me.

On a slightly related note, I temporarily deafened myself in one ear at work the other day trying to break a steel 'mag' wheel. I had temporary tinnitus afterwards also.


Dare I ask? :)
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Postby X11 » Mon Sep 13, 2004 5:49 pm

Tux wrote:
Void Main wrote:I think you are on to something. Many things in the FAQ fit my experiences.


Yeah, i'm guessing that working with fast-jets probably wasn't too good for yer lugs :)

On a slightly related note, I temporarily deafened myself in one ear at work the other day trying to break a steel 'mag' wheel. I had temporary tinnitus afterwards also.


I permanently damaged my hearing with the local band movement.
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Postby Void Main » Mon Sep 13, 2004 7:02 pm

X11 wrote:
Tux wrote:
Void Main wrote:I think you are on to something. Many things in the FAQ fit my experiences.


Yeah, i'm guessing that working with fast-jets probably wasn't too good for yer lugs :)

On a slightly related note, I temporarily deafened myself in one ear at work the other day trying to break a steel 'mag' wheel. I had temporary tinnitus afterwards also.


I permanently damaged my hearing with the local band movement.


I suppose that could also be part of my problem. I have played in several bands and used to have a full Marshall Stack with 2 4x12" cabinets that I have spent many hours in front of. But there is nothing comparable to forgetting your ear protection and having to marshal an F-16 into it's parking spot. You can literally feel your brain rattling in your skull and will have a difficult time hearing for the rest of the day.

Heh heh, I just did a search and found this page:
http://www2.acc.af.mil/combat-edge/curr ... story7.htm

It happens to also be the base where I was stationed when I worked F-16s.
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Postby X11 » Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:50 pm

Yea that would do it, ive also been around badass powerful cars my whole life.

I was born deaf, because my ear bones hadnt grown, then when I was about 3 yeas old, I had way above average hearing.

Nowdays its pretty screwed.

Also for someone who has been in front of computers and TV sets his whole life, my eyesight is really good.
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Postby Void Main » Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:08 pm

Now that you mention it, top fuel dragsters and F-16s are very close as far as the sound level. Have you ever sat near the starting line when a big name top fueler takes off? I've been to a few races with some of the big names like Kenny Bernstein etc. Being within 100 feet of the starting line and being within a 100 feet of the rear end of an F-16 running at full afterburner are extremely similar. It feels like the sound waves are going to stop your heart. I used to do engine work and had to tie the airplanes down (with very large cables) in a special area and run them in full afterburner to check them out. But to me it's even worse standing within 100 feet directly in front of the plane while it is idling. It makes this extremely high pictched whistling sound that is just unbearable without covering your ears.
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Postby X11 » Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:30 pm

Working on a running 351 ford without exaust gear up close is enough ear bending for me.

I have a fetish for feedback effects, which has killed my higher range hearing thoughly.
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Postby Void Main » Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:34 pm

Oh yeah, the feedback can take out the high range pretty quickly. :) You know that ring you get after a good dose of it? That's what I hear 24x7.
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Postby X11 » Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:58 pm

Yea... my ears recover from it... until I get a bigger amp.

Im in my bedroom so much I cant stand being in here without music, actually Dark Side of The Moon seems the be the best drug for my ADHD yet. I listen to that album all the time now, at school, everywhere. I can concentrate pretty damn well.
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Postby worker201 » Tue Sep 14, 2004 12:15 am

I've never spent a whole lot of time near big jets, but back in my punk rock days, I used to stand right next to the drumkit when we practiced in the garage. So it wasn't loud guitar amps that killed me, it was a Sabian crash cymbal. Talk about the ringing in your ears! Well, I quit that a long time ago, and my hearing is somewhat normal now. But I can still follow a piece of music based on its cymbal count. A trivial skill, I know. :wink:
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Postby X11 » Tue Sep 14, 2004 12:28 am

I put my head in a kickdrum once... i really had a ringing after that.

Ill get a picture next time i goto a good jam session and get drunk.
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