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2.6 is out!

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 3:54 pm
by Tux

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 5:07 pm
by Void Main
Wonder how long I have to wait to get it in Fedora? CORE 2 maybe, if that's what it's going to be called? I guess I'll have to upgrade the Void site to it and get rid of the test kernel.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 11:59 pm
by X11
W00000000z0000r!

Just in time for Christmas.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 7:23 am
by Tux
Upgraded today, all is well. But that is to be expected as it has been fine for me through most of development.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 12:14 pm
by Void Main
That didn't take long. This pretty much answers my Fedora question (both of them):
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/34614.html

Red Hat's Fedora project is likely to produce one of the first major Linux distributions sporting the new 2.6 kernel, with release of the next version, Fedora Core 2, scheduled for early April. This will put it well ahead of Red Hat's Enterprise Linux, which isn't likely to go to 2.6 until next autumn, and will provide an acid test for Red Hat's new dual-track strategy.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 12:31 pm
by agent007
Do u guys just patch the existing kernel which comes form RedHat or Debian etc? or do u downlaod the kernel from kernel.org and compile the whole thing from scratch?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 12:57 pm
by Void Main
Heh heh, I actually have been lazy lately and installing mine the easy way. Just add this to your apt "sources.list"

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rpm http://people.redhat.com arjanv/2.5 kernel
rpm-src http://people.redhat.com arjanv/2.5 kernel


and then:

# apt-get update
# apt-get dist-upgrade
# apt-get install kernel#2.6.0-1.104

The last one depends on which version of the kernel is the latest available. If you do this it will tell you what the latest kernel available is:

# apt-get install kernel

Or browse his directory directly:
http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.5/RPMS.kernel/

It says 2.5 but he has the released 2.6 kernel in there and the associated prereq pakages. Of course compiling from scratch isn't difficult either and a little nicer than the older 2.4 method. Unfortunately he hasn't built the latest one for the AMD K6-2 or the Void site would be running the released kernel. Don't understand why he didn't compile one for it because he did all the way through the 2.6.0-0.testX kernels which I am currently running 2.6.0-0.test9.1.67 (just short of the official released one). The new one installed on my laptop very nicely. Of course some things are different in 2.6 so you will likely have some minor issues with startup scripts.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 1:45 pm
by Tux
agent007 wrote:Do u guys just patch the existing kernel which comes form RedHat or Debian etc? or do u downlaod the kernel from kernel.org and compile the whole thing from scratch?


From scratch.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 11:07 am
by agent007
Thats really simple....But, I dont c u doing the make config etc....how come? Is it done later?

thanks..

[quote="Void Main"]Heh heh, I actually have been lazy lately and installing mine the easy way. Just add this to your apt "sources.list"

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rpm http://people.redhat.com arjanv/2.5 kernel
rpm-src http://people.redhat.com arjanv/2.5 kernel


and then:

# apt-get update
# apt-get dist-upgrade
# apt-get install kernel#2.6.0-1.104

The last one depends on which version of the kernel is the latest available. If you do this it will tell you what the latest kernel available is:

# apt-get install kernel

PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 11:08 am
by agent007
Our prof at college mentioned that the kernel provided by the distro is the best and is optimised for performance. He also said that compiling the kernel from kernel.org would break everything and would leave the distro severely
crippled since there are certain distro-specific settings....

Can it get that bad?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 6:53 pm
by Void Main
Ask your professor which distro he is referring to. If that were true I wouldn't have had to create these:

http://voidmain.is-a-geek.net/redhat/re ... ource.html
http://voidmain.is-a-geek.net/redhat/re ... ource.html

I don't know of any distro that adds "distro specific" stuff. Red Hat does grab some patches and back ports some functionality from development kernels but in no way does the distro depend on that particular kernel. It is true though that there are several differences between the 2.4 and 2.6 kernels and you will get some errors on boot up until you tailor the startup scripts to accomodate the 2.6 kernel. But it's not really a big hairy deal (it might be for someone with very little Linux experience).

In the two tips that I linked above the kernel versions were very close to what was included with the distro so there was really nothing that needed to be done. Just download the kernel source, compile, install, done, and in my experience with the Red Hat 8 links gain significant performance. Now I really haven't had a need to upgrade the kernels that came with RH9 and Fedora, they have worked just fine for me.