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Postby Basher52 » Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:25 pm

Nope, won't work :(
I get this:

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Error while Scanning folders in "IMAP server ddp.servehttp.com".

Could not connect to ddp.servehttp.com (port imap): Connection refused.

Iand I've check ulog and I see that the access to it works through iptables


and I forgot to tell that I have changed the /etc/mail/access file
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localhost.localdomain           RELAY
localhost                       RELAY
127.0.0.1                       RELAY
192.168.6                      RELAY
82.196.xx.xxx                   RELAY


The line with 82.196.xx.xxx is the IP address of my gateway that I has my
*cough* windoze machine behind and it's this IP address I see in ulog when I try to connect
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Postby Void Main » Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:42 pm

Did you check the other things I mentioned in my previous message about the netstat -anp, etc?
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Postby Basher52 » Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:58 pm

Sorry forgot to post that

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[root@ddp ~]# netstat -anp
Active Internet connections (servers and established)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address               Foreign Address             State       PID/Program name   
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:781                 0.0.0.0:*                   LISTEN      2719/rpc.statd     
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:111                 0.0.0.0:*                   LISTEN      2699/portmap       
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:6000                0.0.0.0:*                   LISTEN      6922/X             
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:25                  0.0.0.0:*                   LISTEN      3979/sendmail: acce
tcp        0      0 :::6000                     :::*                        LISTEN      6922/X             
tcp        0      0 :::22                       :::*                        LISTEN      6862/sshd           
tcp        0     52 ::ffff:82.196.123.118:22    ::ffff:82.196.122.38:2103   ESTABLISHED 3733/sshd: basher52
udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:775                 0.0.0.0:*                               2719/rpc.statd     
udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:778                 0.0.0.0:*                               2719/rpc.statd     
udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:68                  0.0.0.0:*                               2622/dhclient       
udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:111                 0.0.0.0:*                               2699/portmap       
Active UNIX domain sockets (servers and established)
Proto RefCnt Flags       Type       State         I-Node PID/Program name    Path
unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     6262   2934/xfs            /tmp/.font-unix/fs7100
unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     31423  7042/gam_server     @/tmp/fam-root-
unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     8041   3735/0              /tmp/ssh-XvAqDq3735/agent.3735
unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     31160  6922/X              /tmp/.X11-unix/X0
unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     31363  7032/kdeinit: Runni /tmp/ksocket-root/kdeinit__0
unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     31365  7032/kdeinit: Runni /tmp/ksocket-root/kdeinit-:0
unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     31371  7035/kdeinit: dcops /tmp/.ICE-unix/dcop7035-1181161257
unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     31395  7037/kdeinit: klaun /tmp/ksocket-root/klauncher5ttn5b.slave-socket
unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     40117  15861/gconfd-2      /tmp/orbit-root/linc-3df5-0-e44f9f697478
unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     31491  7051/artsd          /tmp/mcop-root/ddp_servehttp_com-1b8b-4667172d
unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     31561  7056/kdeinit: ksmse /tmp/.ICE-unix/7056
unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     40123  15859/evolution     /tmp/orbit-root/linc-3df3-0-2e5d1dfe9941a
unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     31737  7073/eggcups        /tmp/orbit-root/linc-1ba1-0-7eaab565d909e
unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     31781  7071/python         /tmp/orbit-root/linc-1b9f-0-15b6018815e92
unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     40142  15863/bonobo-activa /tmp/orbit-root/linc-3df7-0-7f48718b3d0ce
unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     40158  15865/evolution-dat /tmp/orbit-root/linc-3df9-0-50437dc946423
unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     40225  15869/evolution-ala /tmp/orbit-root/linc-3dfd-0-458e528ed44df
unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     6195   2901/gpm            /dev/gpmctl
unix  11     [ ]         DGRAM                    5683   2666/syslogd        /dev/log
unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     31302  6988/dbus-daemon-1  @/tmp/dbus-rYnBJSF92j
unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     5964   2809/acpid          /var/run/acpid.socket
unix  2      [ ]         DGRAM                    6360   2974/hald           @/var/run/hal/hotplug_socket
unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     6320   2963/dbus-daemon-1  /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket
unix  2      [ ]         DGRAM                    2966   1362/udevd          @udevd
unix  2      [ ]         DGRAM                    45345  19208/netstat       
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     45333  6922/X              /tmp/.X11-unix/X0
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     45332  19206/sphere       
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     45314  7035/kdeinit: dcops /tmp/.ICE-unix/dcop7035-1181161257
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     45313  19205/kdesktop_lock
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     45307  6922/X              /tmp/.X11-unix/X0
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     45306  19205/kdesktop_lock
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     45234  7035/kdeinit: dcops /tmp/.ICE-unix/dcop7035-1181161257
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     45233  19182/kdeinit: kons
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     45228  7056/kdeinit: ksmse /tmp/.ICE-unix/7056
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     45227  19182/kdeinit: kons
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     45226  6922/X              /tmp/.X11-unix/X0
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     45225  19182/kdeinit: kons
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40357  15859/evolution     /tmp/orbit-root/linc-3df3-0-2e5d1dfe9941a
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40356  15865/evolution-dat
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40355  15865/evolution-dat /tmp/orbit-root/linc-3df9-0-50437dc946423
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40354  15859/evolution     
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40238  15869/evolution-ala /tmp/orbit-root/linc-3dfd-0-458e528ed44df
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40237  15865/evolution-dat
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40236  15865/evolution-dat /tmp/orbit-root/linc-3df9-0-50437dc946423
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40235  15869/evolution-ala
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40232  15869/evolution-ala /tmp/orbit-root/linc-3dfd-0-458e528ed44df
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40231  15863/bonobo-activa
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40230  15863/bonobo-activa /tmp/orbit-root/linc-3df7-0-7f48718b3d0ce
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40229  15869/evolution-ala
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40228  15869/evolution-ala /tmp/orbit-root/linc-3dfd-0-458e528ed44df
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40227  15861/gconfd-2     
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40224  15861/gconfd-2      /tmp/orbit-root/linc-3df5-0-e44f9f697478
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40223  15869/evolution-ala
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40222  7056/kdeinit: ksmse /tmp/.ICE-unix/7056
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40221  15869/evolution-ala
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40216  6922/X              /tmp/.X11-unix/X0
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40215  15869/evolution-ala
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40167  15865/evolution-dat /tmp/orbit-root/linc-3df9-0-50437dc946423
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40166  15863/bonobo-activa
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40165  15863/bonobo-activa /tmp/orbit-root/linc-3df7-0-7f48718b3d0ce
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40164  15865/evolution-dat
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40161  15865/evolution-dat /tmp/orbit-root/linc-3df9-0-50437dc946423
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40160  15861/gconfd-2     
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40157  15861/gconfd-2      /tmp/orbit-root/linc-3df5-0-e44f9f697478
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40156  15865/evolution-dat
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40148  15859/evolution     /tmp/orbit-root/linc-3df3-0-2e5d1dfe9941a
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40147  15863/bonobo-activa
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40146  15863/bonobo-activa /tmp/orbit-root/linc-3df7-0-7f48718b3d0ce
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40145  15859/evolution     
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40132  15859/evolution     /tmp/orbit-root/linc-3df3-0-2e5d1dfe9941a
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40131  15861/gconfd-2     
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40127  7073/eggcups        /tmp/orbit-root/linc-1ba1-0-7eaab565d909e
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40126  15861/gconfd-2     
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40133  7071/python         /tmp/orbit-root/linc-1b9f-0-15b6018815e92
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40125  15861/gconfd-2     
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40130  15861/gconfd-2      /tmp/orbit-root/linc-3df5-0-e44f9f697478
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40122  15859/evolution     
unix  2      [ ]         DGRAM                    40113  15861/gconfd-2     
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40107  7056/kdeinit: ksmse /tmp/.ICE-unix/7056
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40106  15859/evolution     
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40101  6922/X              /tmp/.X11-unix/X0
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     40100  15859/evolution     
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31868  7037/kdeinit: klaun /tmp/ksocket-root/klauncher5ttn5b.slave-socket
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31866  7065/kdesktopeLzXtb
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31818  6922/X              /tmp/.X11-unix/X0
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31817  7037/kdeinit: klaun
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31778  7056/kdeinit: ksmse /tmp/.ICE-unix/7056
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31777  7071/python         
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31775  6922/X              /tmp/.X11-unix/X0
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31774  7071/python         
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31768  2963/dbus-daemon-1  /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31767  7073/eggcups       
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31758  6988/dbus-daemon-1  @/tmp/dbus-rYnBJSF92j
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31757  7073/eggcups       
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31716  7056/kdeinit: ksmse /tmp/.ICE-unix/7056
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31715  7073/eggcups       
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31710  6922/X              /tmp/.X11-unix/X0
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31709  7073/eggcups       
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31697  7056/kdeinit: ksmse /tmp/.ICE-unix/7056
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31696  7070/pam-panel-icon
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31693  6922/X              /tmp/.X11-unix/X0
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31692  7070/pam-panel-icon
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31644  7035/kdeinit: dcops /tmp/.ICE-unix/dcop7035-1181161257
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31643  7064/kdeinit: kicke
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31632  7056/kdeinit: ksmse /tmp/.ICE-unix/7056
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31631  7064/kdeinit: kicke
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31630  6922/X              /tmp/.X11-unix/X0
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31629  7064/kdeinit: kicke
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31628  7035/kdeinit: dcops /tmp/.ICE-unix/dcop7035-1181161257
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31627  7064/kdeinit: kicke
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31623  7042/gam_server     @/tmp/fam-root-
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31622  7062/kdeinit: kdesk
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31611  7056/kdeinit: ksmse /tmp/.ICE-unix/7056
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31610  7062/kdeinit: kdesk
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31609  6922/X              /tmp/.X11-unix/X0
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31608  7062/kdeinit: kdesk
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31607  7035/kdeinit: dcops /tmp/.ICE-unix/dcop7035-1181161257
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31606  7062/kdeinit: kdesk
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31598  7056/kdeinit: ksmse /tmp/.ICE-unix/7056
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31597  7061/kdeinit: khotk
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31596  6922/X              /tmp/.X11-unix/X0
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31595  7061/kdeinit: khotk
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31594  7035/kdeinit: dcops /tmp/.ICE-unix/dcop7035-1181161257
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31593  7061/kdeinit: khotk
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31576  7056/kdeinit: ksmse /tmp/.ICE-unix/7056
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31575  7057/kdeinit: kwin 
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31574  7035/kdeinit: dcops /tmp/.ICE-unix/dcop7035-1181161257
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31573  7057/kdeinit: kwin 
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31568  7056/kdeinit: ksmse /tmp/.ICE-unix/7056
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31567  7057/kdeinit: kwin 
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31566  6922/X              /tmp/.X11-unix/X0
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31565  7057/kdeinit: kwin 
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31560  7035/kdeinit: dcops /tmp/.ICE-unix/dcop7035-1181161257
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31559  7056/kdeinit: ksmse
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     31554  6922/X              /tmp/.X11-unix/X0
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Postby Void Main » Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:39 pm

There's your problem. Nothing is listening on 110, 143, 993, or 995. Is your dovecot service running?

# chkconfig dovecot on
# chkconfig dovecot restart

If you don't have a dovecot service it could also be starting from xinetd but first check and see if you have a dovecot service and make sure it's started.
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Postby Basher52 » Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:44 pm

yep, I forgot to turn it on :oops:
and after that is works perfect

now it's 12:43 AM here so I gotta go bed :(
we'll contínue this later

thanks again :)
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Postby Basher52 » Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:34 pm

OK, back in business :)

*Well, Evolution worked, now what can I look for*
As I was looking again through the settings in OE I found a place:
"My Server requires authentication", Just to test I ticked it and clicked the "Settings" button that came enabled.
I filled in user and password and tried again to sync the folders.
I had to write my accounts password, even though I filled it in authenication, and it worked :)
The only problem right now is the Secure Password Authentication.

I thought, Why did I have to give the password again when I filled it in the authenication settings, so I removed the auth. and tested again and it still worked.
Hmm, is wouldn't work yesterday...
I restarted OE and it worked, I restarted the server and it worked.
Wierd!!

but now as I think of it, I can't be sure that I even tested OE when I finally started dovecot :P

ok, now when all this works, *kneels before the Linux God*
What should I backup?
I understand the dovecot conf, local-host-names and sendmail.mc, also the ~/mail directory(and sub dirs) of the accounts, but this is it, right?
well at least for the mail system.

I was also thinking of creating an image of the entire disk/system when it's all done, can I also ask how I do this so I just can insert a DVD(or more than one) and it boots on it and maybe asking me(or I do it manually) to start recreating the disk from the image.


PS. Thanks a million for all your help, where can I send the toaster you just won, lol
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Postby Void Main » Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:01 pm

Are you saying that you have some things that aren't working? To switch over to imaps (imap over ssl) just change the conf to use imaps, it should have the default port. The only difference once you do this is it will give you a warning about a self signed or out of date certificate the first time you connect and you'll have to tell it you want to import/save that certificate. You can create your own certificate but if you want to get rid of the warning message you would need a valid certificate signed by a certifying authority (verisign, etc). You probably will be happy using the default self signed certificate although if you get everything running the way you like it would not be a bad idea to create a new self signed certificate. It will still give you a warning when you first connect to the server (until you've saved the certificate) but at least it will not be the default one shipped with the box.

Regarding backups, that's totally up to you. Of course backing the entire system up is always the best method. If you want to just back up your sendmail configuration you would want the /etc/mail directory and /etc/aliases. In fact just go ahead and back up all of /etc. This tgz's down to a very small file. If you want to back up the user's mail you would back up /var/spool/mail for everyone's inbox and if they are saving folders on the server you'll want to back those up under their home directories. The rest is up to you. At least back up anything that is customized by you, usually /etc, /home, and various things in /var.
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Postby Basher52 » Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:39 pm

The only problem now I have is when trying to connect to the server it says:
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The server you connected to is using a security certificate that could not be verified.
A certificate chain rocessed, but terminated in a root certificate which is not trusted by the trust provider.
Do you wnat to continue using the server?


To this I answer 'Yes' and then I get this:

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Your 'Inbox' folder was not polled for its unread count. PLAIN authentication failed. None of the authentication methods supported by your IMAP server (if any) are supported on this computer. Account: 'ddp.servehttp.com', Server: 'ddp.servehttp.com', Protocol: IMAP, Server Response: '', Port: 993, Secure(SSL): Yes, Error Number: 0x800CCCDF


I found something about this here: http://www.ravencore.com/forum/viewtopi ... sc&start=0
but I don't even have smtpd.conf file, but I tried to start the sasl and I get the same problem.
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Postby Void Main » Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:09 pm

I don't believe that thread applies to your situation. Were you not able to get this working with Evolution? Try getting that working first and then just the IMAP (receiving) portion, not the SMTP (sending) portion. All you should have to do is change the "Use secure connection:" option on the "Receiving Email" tab to "SSL encryption". It should show you the bad cert and ask you to accept it and you should be able to get in. If you get an error check the messages at the end of /var/log/maillog and let me know what it says.
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Postby Basher52 » Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:20 am

Just tried Evolution and that seems to work
It asked if I should accept the key as you said, and after that I got in.
I just tried to use OE on another windoze mashine and I got the same result.

Ah well... now I'm off to my sister to do some wine testing, or whatever it's called :P
Have a great day/evening all
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Postby Basher52 » Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:56 am

I was thinking...
Since you Void Main is admin here, I was thinking, you think you could somehow print out all these pages from the database to a sort of manual?
Don't need to be fancy at all, just to get all text on one page and print that...
kinda.
You get what I mean?
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Postby Void Main » Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:04 pm

Not sure exactly what you mean, like a HOWTO of some sort? I used to take a little extra time and do Red Hat/Fedora specific tips for things like this:

http://voidmain.is-a-geek.net/redhat/

But I just haven't had the time to do any lately and it seems like there are a lot more people doing them now days, better than anything I could do anyway.
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Postby Basher52 » Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:49 pm

I ment some sort of a printout, but no worries I got it covered
thx anyways :)
It took a bit longer than I thought before I could write an update on my previous post, sorry
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Postby Basher52 » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:13 pm

I just installed it all again all from the OS, and I get the same error with the PLAIN stuff.
When I removed: 'Log on using Secure Password Authentication' I could rescan the IMAP folders on the server.
I tried to use SPA again, but it keeps complaining about PLAIN

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Your 'Inbox' folder was not polled for its unread count. PLAIN authentication failed. None of the authentication methods supported by your IMAP server (if any) are supported on this computer. Account: 'ddp.servehttp.com', Server: 'ddp.servehttp.com', Protocol: IMAP, Server Response: '', Port: 993, Secure(SSL): Yes, Error Number: 0x800CCCDF


It says this for all my folders, Drafts, Inbox, Sent etc
and it wont matter if I use Secure connection either
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Postby Void Main » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:28 pm

I thought you had it working. What is SPA? By the error message you posted it looks like you are using the outlook thing again. As I said I can't help you with that one because I don't have Windows or Outlook. The only other thing I can suggest is plug the error message into Google and see what pops up. If you have it working with Evolution then I would say it's a Microsoft issue.
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