The Unofficial Fedora FAQ

[Tux]

http://www.fedorafaq.org/

Handy little place for Fedora gripes, gave me a nudge in the right direction when I couldn't find JuK in FC2 and wanted to try it out.

[Void Main]

Sorry for being a little off topic on this one but I notice they push "yum" in that FAQ like most Fedora sites do. They only mention "apt" as a footnote. Fedora does only come with "yum" so I can understand that (even though I don't necessarily understand why Fedora doesn't also include apt). Now I am not that familiar with yum because I was already familiar with apt but I notice in that section you were referring to regarding getting MP3 support into KDE apps like "JuK".

They mention that you have to go search out for the proper "kdemultimedia" SRPM, manually download it and install it, but then you can use "yum" to install all the dependencies. Are they saying you can't use "yum" to install the SRPMs? Using "apt" you could have just "apt-get source kdemultimedia" and it would have downloaded the SRPM and installed it which I use apt for a lot. I would hope that yum has the same capability (although I do not see it in the man page) and it was maybe just an oversight in the FAQ.

If apt and yum performed identical functions (which I was under the impression they nearly do) I would prefer "apt" just for the name. I still don't get where "yum" came from when there was already an "apt" port, and it is magical, and other distros use it so it is somewhat standard, etc. I am interested in how it came to be embraced by Fedora. Oh well, as long as it helps people I guess it's a good thing. Nice FAQ site by the way, even though there were a couple of other things I didn't really agree with. The more easy documentation/tutorials/howtos out there the better.

[Tux]

I'm not sure about the yum questions because I don't use it myself, infact apt could not get the src rpm for kdemultimedia when I tried so I had to do it manually.

There's also a bit of a booboo in that particular FAQ, the title desripes this as a fix for Noatun, JuK etc, but if you follow their instructions to the word it doesnt actually install JuK at all - you have to enable that in the spec also. They should probably make a little note about that because some people may expect it to install JuK also.
For the record, you have to change
%define juk 0
to, you guessed it;
%define juk 1

It's obvious but some people are not too smart, or have just arrived from Window$(tm)land

[Tux]

Also, I don't actually like JuK. They should have polished madman up a bit and put that in KDE, not that i'm a KDE fanboy either.

[Void Main]

I'm not sure about the yum questions because I don't use it myself, infact apt could not get the src rpm for kdemultimedia when I tried so I had to do it manually.

You need to edit your "/etc/apt/sources.list" file (or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list files) and uncomment the appropriate "rpm-src" line(s) and then do an "apt-get update". Don't know why the default apt installation has them commented out recently.

[Tux]

Duh, didn't think of that!

Don't know why the default apt installation has them commented out recently.

Indeed, it's not a good idea. I was thinking surely apt would have the kde source packages! and they do, better sort out my config.