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by **Calum** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 9:13 pm

and also, red hat network, what a load of arse! not only do you have to pay for it but... well, actually that's as far as i got, so i can't really criticise it further.

i suppose, they're all just rpms frontends indeed.

you reminded me of another "you know you're becoming a geek when..." moment.

I just realised that i haven't had synaptic installed for months, meaning i've been using apt without running synaptic since as long as i can remember, but i don't remember needing it once. small thing i know, but that would have been unthinkable for me last year.

on the mandrake computer though, i'm still no closer to using the many odd urpmixxx commands without use of the GUI.

by **lovswr** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:51 pm

Actually Void, I feel the exact opposite now! I used to use apt all the time & was actually afraid of yum. Now even though apt (& of course, synaptic) are installed, I'm just getting more & more comforable with yum.

& now for something completely different

Just got my shockwave working. www.ninjai.com doth beckon me!

by **Void Main** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 4:53 pm

But what is it that yum can do that apt can not do that causes you to prefer yum? That's the part I don't understand.

by **lovswr** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 9:55 am

Void Main wrote:But what is it that yum can do that apt can not do that causes you to prefer yum? That's the part I don't understand.

Sorry for the late reply. It is not a question of "usability", it is, now for me at least, a question of comfort. I 'm getting more & more comfortable with the CLI, & I guess it just really comes down to just because I can.

by **Void Main** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 11:08 am

I also do everything on the command line, including using apt-get but that still doesn't explain the point of yum when apt-get was already there and nearly a standard. yum seems to be a similar but limited version of apt-get.

by **insomnia** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 12:26 pm

Did you ever try to ask that in an other RH/fedora forum?
Some punks always start flaming without answering.
I also noticed they keep recommending it in any HOWTO...
(Could it have anything to do with yum comming from Duke.edu'?)

I find it rather useless.
Being written in Python also makes it slow.

by **Void Main** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:39 pm

I found an interesting thread on the yum vs apt question. It answers a few questions on how/why it came about and where it got it's name. Here is a post somewhere in the middle of the thread:

http://www.silug.org/lists/silug-discus ... 00086.html

But it's worth going back and reading all the posts in the thread. It doesn't answer which one is better (but we all know apt is of course). :)

EDIT: The end of another thread worth looking at:

http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-l ... 06884.html

by **Void Main** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 8:04 pm

If anyone has noticed a problem running some remote X apps through SSH and coming up with failures you might want to add a couple of lines to your /etc/ssh/ssh_config file on your client machine:

Code: Select all: Host * GSSAPIAuthentication yes ForwardX11 yes ForwardX11Trusted yes

I noticed that I could start basic Xlib apps like xterm with just the "ForwardX11 yes" line but could not start GTK or QT type apps until I added the "ForwardX11Trusted yes" line. This does the same thing as adding a "-Y" to the ssh command so you might just see if adding a "-Y" solves your problem before modifying your ssh_config file. The "ForwardX11 yes" is the same as using the "-X" on the command line.

by **insomnia** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 10:41 pm

I just noticed their still doesn't exist an official wxPython package for Fedora 3.
You can use this tho:
http://www.city-fan.org/ftp/contrib/bit ... 3.i386.rpm

Their also seems to be a problem with GNOME's CD-player.
It looked for /dev/cdrom(they probably mixed it with the mount point) instaed of /dev/hdc.

by **Void Main** » Mon Dec 20, 2004 8:10 am

insomnia wrote:Their also seems to be a problem with GNOME's CD-player.
It looked for /dev/cdrom(they probably mixed it with the mount point) instaed of /dev/hdc.

If you update your system (apt-get dist-upgrade) or just update your "udev" package you should have the /dev/cdrom symbolic link that points to your CD device. The udev package was released with FC3 with some development options by accident.

by **insomnia** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 5:33 pm

Well, I already did upgrade udev, so that didn't seem to work for me...
A simple "ln -s hdc cdrom" and "ln -s hdc dvd" solved it though.

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