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Post by Void Main » Mon Aug 30, 2004 3:20 pm

American CeNsOrEd wrote:not to overcomplicate things...but this is SuSE's GPL
Actually there is no "SUSE's GPL". There is only one GPL:

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.html

This is the one SUSE and everyone else uses when they place their software under the GPL. If it is any different than what is listed at the above link then it is not the GPL. There is also a similar license called the LGPL (lesser GPL) which is commonly used for libraries and similar.

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Post by Ice9 » Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:54 am

As far as I know Suse works in a similar way to Red Hat now.
You can purchase a license for Enterprise Linux and then download ISO images, so technically there are ISO's available.
You can't download a copy of RHEL without purchasing a key either.

I don't know if doing more or less the same as Whiteboxlinux with Suse would be ok but I'm meeting with Novell later today and I'll ask them about it.

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Post by Void Main » Tue Aug 31, 2004 8:18 am

Ice9 wrote:As far as I know Suse works in a similar way to Red Hat now.
You can purchase a license for Enterprise Linux and then download ISO images, so technically there are ISO's available.
You can't download a copy of RHEL without purchasing a key either.
Well you can't download an RHEL ISO without having an RHN account. There is no key for the ISO specifically. I have downloaded many RHES and RHAS ISOs from RHN. But if you remove the Red Hat logos and trademarks from those ISOs you can create your own ISOs and pass them out to all your friends, or even set up your own Red Hat-like business using them as a base. You can sell them or set up a business just like Red Hat if you want. In fact there are companies that have done this. There is a free version of Red Hat Enterprise linux called White Box Linux:

www.whiteboxlinux.com

If you look at the distro list and select "Red Hat Based" from the pulldown you will find many:

http://www.linux.org/dist/list.html

Maybe it's just that nobody wanted to use SUSE for a base, dunno.
I don't know if doing more or less the same as Whiteboxlinux with Suse would be ok but I'm meeting with Novell later today and I'll ask them about it.
I guess it would depend on who you talk to from Novell as to whether you could get an accurate answer. I had a heck of a time just getting the source for a specific connector binary after they had just made a big deal about GPLing it. In fact I never did get the SRPM which would have included the spec file and everything else to build tbe binary RPM, I just got the source tar ball. It was good enough for what I needed but it really isn't following the spirit of the GPL. In this particular case though they can not themselves violate the GPL because they are the copyright holder of the connector source.

Novell is still very new at this game and In fact if you pull the SUSE logos, trademarks (and any other proprietary bits there might be, that's the part I am missing right now) then Novell really has no say whatsoever what you can do with the software that they do not hold the copyright to. They are still new at this game though so we'll see how it goes. I'll give them credit though, in the early going they have looked promising.

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Post by JoeDude » Wed Sep 01, 2004 8:24 pm

SuSE 9.1 pro disc 1 by kiffer.iso via overnet is not...

it's PRON...Hawaii Ecstasy...and though it happens to be an oddly good one, I am strangely disappointed...Does this mark my first steps into actual geekdom?

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Post by Void Main » Wed Sep 01, 2004 8:30 pm

Yes, admitting you have a problem is the 1st step in the 12 step program.

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Post by worker201 » Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:10 pm

I personally like the 13th step - combination of 1 and 12. "I have a problem and I would like to share my life with you."

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Post by Ice9 » Mon Sep 06, 2004 6:27 am

Void Main wrote:
I guess it would depend on who you talk to from Novell as to whether you could get an accurate answer.
You were absolutely right.
They didn't seem too sure about GPL issues and none of them could provide me with a satisfactory answer ...

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Post by JoeDude » Tue Sep 07, 2004 10:14 pm

I found this on CD 3....
Copying and Licenses
====================

The majority of programs on this CD fall under the GNU General Public
License (GPL). This license can be found in the file "COPYING". Additionally,
a German translation of this license can be found on the CD in the file
"COPYING.de". This translation only serves the purpose
of transfering the basic ideas of the GPL. The Free Software Foundation
does not acknowledge any translated versions.
Only the authentic English version is authoritative!

We make available the complete source code as required by the individual
licenses (GPL or other) of the packages. For smaller distributions, the
source code is available for download on ftp://ftp.suse.com. For others,
it is shipped directly on the CDs or DVDs.
If you find any omissions, please notify us. In such a case, we offer
for you to receive missing source code at net cost price.


ATTENTION:
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The distribution and use of software (even if it is free software) must honor
certain license conditions. Not all programs on the CDs are free software.
Some of them are shareware, restricted to noncommercial use, or may have
other restrictive conditions.

The package information mentions the respective license and authors.
We cannot, however, ensure the correctness of this information.
In cases of doubt, refer to the original copyright information of the
respective programs.

Your SUSE Team
I'm still waiting for something with that ever elusive package list However, I believe YAST is proprietary.

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Post by Void Main » Tue Sep 07, 2004 10:21 pm

YaST used to be under a non-GPL license but now is GPL.

http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-5175682 ... g=nefd_top

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Post by JoeDude » Thu Sep 09, 2004 10:24 am

SuSE 9.1 Pro Disc #4 downloaded and checked.

Results: Playboys best of College Girls Movie.

Frustrating.

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Post by Void Main » Thu Sep 09, 2004 10:39 am

Heh heh, that would get their market share up! :)

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Post by worker201 » Thu Sep 09, 2004 10:45 am

Girls who study Suse Linux in college?
:D

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Post by JoeDude » Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:04 am

Having a DVD burner has come in really handy througout this project so far...Oh, Disk #2 = Virtual Sex Starring Kobe Tai

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